S1E6: JC's Hyper Auteur Future
JC Ronquillo
EPISODE SUMMARY:
"I wasn't aware of the idea of death, how it's going to affect me. That's why when our mom died in 2007, it never really hit me until three years later." - JC.
JC is a film student in the Philippines, finishing his thesis with many troubles and insights. He's an old soul with a flair for helpful information that continuously transforms his perspectives in life. Oh, he's also my brother and ward. Join us and listen in to a brother and sister/guardian conversation that may not be your typical expectation for ranting siblings.
MAIN TOPICS:
00:00 - Episode intro
01:12 - JC's intro
01:49 - JC's thesis debacle
04:46 - What are JC's thesis subject and the reasons why he has chosen it
14:34 - More thesis debacle
21:00 - JC's screenplay angle
26:43 - JC's aspirations post-graduation
30:04 - Film production chat
35:43 - How does JC fare without being in his uni physically in 2 years?
36:49 - JC's voice-over demo
38:53 - JC's key phrase to share with a plot twist
41:02 - Wish's important words from this episode
42:24 - Outro
ADDITIONAL RESOURCES:
QUOTABLE QUOTES
"That's why I started it. I want to explore that feeling."
"It does get better. It's not the end. It makes me feel very fresh."
"The editor has his or her story to tell."
"There's always this one difficult person that will make your life hell."
**The quote/s about being a screenwriter:
"Screenwriting is an opportunity to fly first class, be treated like a celebrity, sit around the pool and be betrayed.” – Ian McEwan
"Scriptwriting is the toughest part of the whole racket…the least understood and the least noticed.” - Frank Capra
REFERENCES FROM TODAY'S CONVERSATION
Gerotranscendence to gerontology
Quentin Tarantino wiki
Wes Anderson wiki
Tim Burton wiki
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Wish 00:02
Hello, dear humanity. Welcome to Humans Thesaurus podcast. I'm your host slash motherly Wish Ronquillo Peacocke.
Wish 01:07
JC is a film student at Mapúa University in Manila, Philippines. He's an old soul with a funny streak. He loves sound mixing, old films, spicy food, and maybe me?! He's also a very good voiceover enthusiast. He is my brother, 17 years younger. When we both lost our parents, I stepped up the game and raised him up practically. But he helped me a lot, and he means the world to me. My synonyms for JC are sentinel as a noun, perceiving as a verb, and emerging as an adjective. Please welcome my darling brother, Jeremiah Christian.
JC 01:12
Hello. My name is JC, same as the word happiness. As a noun, brother with the verb moving, hyper as an adjective. And I like the word eat. And I dislike the word hate.
Wish 01:32
Thank you so much, JC. Well, you know what? Four episodes in a row, like, everybody disliked the word hate. It's amazing. I mean, I keep the right people.
JC 01:45
Yeah, it's such a negative word. Uh, usually useless. A negative.
Wish 01:49
Yeah, that's right. So, how's school? Something happened with your thesis or what's going on right now?
JC 01:58
Yeah, I had to continue my thesis, too. They didn't like my progress. The issue was they said that my theories, my framework, didn't align with my screenplay, and I had to wait three more months to defend it again. Right. But I had, like, an easier solution. Why could I just change the framework? Which I just did for, like, 30 minutes.
Wish 02:24
Wow. Can you expound? Who are "they"?
JC 02:29
They're professors from UP Diliman. Some of them have PhDs. One of them is just a teacher part timer actually teaches in UP, FEU, even. And our school, she's going to be a regular teacher soon. And, yeah I only know one out of three of them.
Wish 02:54
So these are the panellists. So I think in Filipino terms, I just found out that in Filipino terms, we call it thesis, but, um, internationally, I think my Western friends would understand every time you say it's a dissertation. So I just learned about that because when I was saying, oh, yeah, JC is going through his thesis and then, Luke (my husband) commented, it's like, we don't call it like that. This is different for us. I was like. Because when I was explaining what it is, and then I was like, what is that equivalent? And then I was looking around, it looks like a paper or dissertation. That's what they call it. I don't know. It's really different for us.
JC 03:41
Yeah, I think we also have some dissertation. We have our own because my advisor, which, Funnily enough, is the same age as me. I forgot to tell you that. She's 25 as well.
Wish 03:56
Oh, my God. Okay.
JC 03:58
She's doing that thing in De LaSalle. Yeah, she's taking her Masters in Digital Film in LaSalle right now. She's actually had an award in UP Film Fest for her thesis in film. And then she was invited to Cannes as well for her film. But she never went because she can't afford to go there.
Wish 04:22
That's sad. She could have raised some funds, but I suppose it's really difficult. Yeah. But it looks like your panellists are successful in their own ways. Yeah. I feel like the issue is really they don't understand the subject and they haven't heard of it ever before. And you're like that's why you're bringing it to life. So anyway, before we go further into that, can you explain what is your thesis? Because for me, I'm really mind blown. And I've learned so much from your paper, really, when I was copy editing it. It's a beautiful word as well to understand.
JC 05:06
So it's a screenplay output for thesis and understanding the death anxiety for the elderly or what I discovered studying this is the lack of death anxiety for the elderly. Yes. When I first got into this, I was actually expecting them being the most conscious about death anxiety. And they're just really good at hiding it. But that wasn't the case. One of the biggest breakthroughs that I've seen, like what I read there was a study like a chart where as you go older, the trend of anxiety goes lower and it peaks in the middle age, middle adult, and Funnily enough, depression actually goes up as well as you go older, but the anxiety goes lower. Yeah. That's one of the most interesting things in my research.
Wish 06:05
How does that work though? You have less anxiety but more depression because?
JC
Um, when I study this, this dude that's named Cicirelli who started researching this first theory on elderly psychology. It's called disengagement theory. It was a very controversial theory about how when you go older, you disengage into society because as an old person you think that you're useless. But this wasn't really the case. It was so controversial that it actually started a movement of researchers trying to understand other people, their psychology better. And their depression might come from being alone, being not understood.
Wish 06:51
Right.
JC 06:51
But the anxiety actually doesn't relate to it because the anxiety comes from death. Right. Sometimes the sadness doesn't really correlate with being nervous.
Wish 07:03
Right. So it's really like death is different than life itself or what they're going through. Because most elderly would have their partners, husband or wife had passed, or all of their friends are passing as well, right before their eyes. So the part of themselves in the society is getting smaller. Again, your research is mostly like a generalisation, but there are lots of research which is fantastic. Can you tell me more about this? Because again, I'm just learning everything from you about. I love the word Gerotranscendence. What was that about Gerotranscendence?
JC 07:55
Uh, it's a very recent study. Even like I think it's being more discovered like this year from an Indian researcher. I don't know if it's... I forgot it was a doctor or just a researcher. But Gerotranscendence is just the idea of as you go older, you become more wiser because of your past experiences. That's the whole summarization of that. And how I relate that to my research is to go beyond anxiety regarding death as you grow older as a form of Gerotranscendence.
Wish 08:33
Wow. I was just thinking probably could have had if we're in a Western country, you could have had a double bachelor's or something. Bachelor of Arts in film, digital film, and psychology or something. Because you're marrying these things together. So pretty much your thesis is this is the subject, the death anxiety of the elderly. And the outcome should be a screenplay, correct?
JC 09:09
Yes.
Wish 09:09
Before you started this, you were thinking about this. Since three years ago, you've been thinking about subjects already and you've got so many and you ended up with this one. Why did you choose this?
JC 09:24
Actually, when I chose subject for film, there was a lot of subjects from psychological, philosophical. I even considered political. But I did not want to get into it because it's too controversial. Even though a lot of people are doing it in school. I even considered having a research on the creepiness value in horror films. And I ended up more in the psychological part with the output of something philosophical with a philosophical tone. The thesis in film. Sometimes it blurs the line from a psychological research to even just a film thesis. Right. Sometimes it blurs though, that's regarding that, as for why I chose this one, because the reason for it is that my whole life I've been with people older than me. I'm surrounded by very old people. The oldest old. The closest age to me was... Actually, no, that was Jazelle, my niece. And then Clark.
Wish 10:48
Your niece! All right, Clark. Yes.
JC 10:49
Uh, yeah. And then other than that, yes, we have more nieces from the US that visit for just a whole week and then they go back home.
Wish 10:59
The Urmatans, and Angela. Yeah, right.
JC 11:04
But most of the time it was just like very old people. And then I was like ten and younger. So I had to interact with them. And then at that time, because they were like 60, 70, 50, I wasn't aware about the idea of death, how it's going to affect me. That's why when our mom died in 2007, it never really hit me until three years later. I started this research just to explore that idea of how old people feel when they know they're going to die. Right. How are they going to feel about it with the people around them as well? Do they get nervous? Do they get sad? Do they have a melancholic feeling, like silver lining thing that I will live on with these people around me, that kind of thing. Yeah, that's why I started it. I want to explore that feeling. What did they feel? I want to show it in the screenplay.
Wish 12:10
Wow. Yeah. Because you were very young. You were nine (actually, ten) when mom passed. And you're really reacted in such a way that you're aware, but you don't understand because you were so young and I can't even imagine going through that. I mean, it was really hard for me. I was 27 and you were only nine (it's ten) at that time. So I suppose this is really your way to connect, to understanding as an adult now of how these things work. Right so far because you've been doing your thesis and you've done so well with your research. Bar the whatever your panellists are saying about it, I think it's really valuable for you as a life journey as well. When you research this, what did you find out internally? What effects has this research is on you? What's your conclusion? About that anxiety for the elderly that connects with your life right now and your outlook.
JC 13:21
Yeah, like a very big impact on me. My personality and my mindset. Mhm. Because, uh, a few years ago I had a peak of anxiety. Thanatophobia, right?
Wish 13:35
Yes.
JC 13:36
It actually stopped me. Made it hard for me to sleep. Made me just nervous. Staring on the ceiling while laying down type of night. Just having cold sweats. Now, when I started this research because I now have a better idea on what death is and how it affects people's feelings, not just the elderly. And I now know that the anxiety does get better as you go older. Statistically speaking, it gave me that enlightenment, that acceptance. Okay. It does get better. It's not the end. Uh, yeah, it makes me feel very fresh.
Wish 14:25
That's great.
JC 14:26
Very fresh. A big impact.
Wish 14:29
Wow. I'm so proud of you. I mean, you know, it. I'm so proud of you. Regardless of all of these roadblocks that's happening with you right now, it's quite upsetting for you. You thought that you can pass the pieces already, but hello, panellists Gerotranscendence and Terror Management Theory. And all of these things do exist. If you just read JC's research.
JC 14:59
Yeah.
Wish 15:00
Uh, do I sound like an angry mother, um, Guardian or something?
JC
That's to be expected. Yeah, they made us. All of us. I think there were seven of us submit our thesis proposal two weeks before the defence. And they only read it like the deliverance. After the defence, they talk to themselves and that's where they read the paper.
Wish 15:34
I don't know why they don't read it beforehand. How are they supposed to ask questions?
JC 15:40
Uh, yeah, like in the advising phase. Usually they want you to cut it down. They even change the way you like your thesis because it's not more of a research-heavy thesis. Now it's more of an output-heavy. Creative output-heavy. So you just put your creative inputs like that, your influences in the most part.
Wish 16:00
That doesn't make sense.
JC 16:01
And the thing is, you can read each of these research an hour, an hour each. And they didn't do that.
Wish 16:10
But it doesn't make any sense to me that they cut down on the research because I think that anybody, even the Wes Anderson and the Quentin Tarantinos of this world, they're well researched before they get into a screenplay. Right. So it doesn't make any sense to me. And this is a good platform for us to really rant about this because I feel like if they wanted for this to be a creative-heavy versus research-heavy part of your subject in school, then why are they stopping you from doing the output on your next course? I don't know. So people who are listening. There are some inefficiencies, I think in some universities. I know some universities are not perfect. But for me, as a guardian of someone like JC, who's trying so hard to finish and graduate from University, these inefficiencies really stop students from graduating and entering the real world where they could build their careers. Some of them. I know it makes sense for them to help them improve stuff, but these passive aggressive inefficiencies are not helping students. And yeah, I'm sounding, um, like a PTA. Sorry. Anyway, I just really wanted to rant because I really feel for you. You really work so hard with this for quite some time now. But anyway, if you move forward, what's next, though?
JC 18:11
What's next right now? Uh, I've actually done everything that I need to adjust based on their comments. Why did they not ask me this term, which I just did for under an hour.
Wish 18:26
Okay.
JC 18:27
Because I'm well-studied. I know my paper from front to back.
Wish 18:33
So are you negotiating?
JC 18:35
This is the issue. Our term end(ed) on that Friday. The encoding.
Wish 18:43
That's crazy, man.
JC 18:45
The encoding of grades passing was today (Last February 2022). This morning to the Registrar. And then, yeah, it was like Friday. The colloqium was Friday.
Wish 18:57
That's crazy. That's not good! By the way, for the listeners as well: I signed a form saying that before they started their thesis that you can't intervene as a guardian or a parent.
JC 19:17
That's for the whole school thing.
Wish 19:18
Yeah, I know. I understand it because parents would blame them for a small thing and that's understandable that they should protect themselves. And that's fine. I understand it. But this is now crossing the line. I don't need to intervene. I don't even need to intervene. What I needed to do is give a very good feedback like a hefty feedback from a parent. Ultimately, I have something to say and I'm going to say it in a very nice way. It has to be constructive. I'm about to say constructive and destructive at the same time. Just a constructive feedback for the Dean to take this on. Because ultimately, for me, at least, I'm outspoken. How about other parents or other students who are struggling, especially during the pandemic. They can't have full time jobs while they're studying. And you guys are in a bigger struggle because you haven't been in school face to face for the past two years. It's just all of these factors. So it's just really hurting the students if everything is last minute and panellists don't care enough to read, to read all the hard work of their students before they go into presentation. It's just not right.
JC 20:52
Yeah tell it.
Wish 20:55
You tell them, yeah but anyway, so when you move forward, when you provide a screenplay, what's your angle?
JC 21:06
Well, I'm just going to proceed with how my screenplay is written. It's like a family tree, like the whole ancestral house with a whole family. And then there's this 80 year old man who just suddenly comes out of nowhere and then just goes home as he left the house for a very long time. I paralleled it with me and my dad. Our dad. You'll later on find out in the story that this old man had a granddaughter but it's an adopted granddaughter, which kind of simulates how me and my dad where before my dad was 60, I was like 10-11. We were alone at home. Yes, because a lot of the details in the story are like spoilery.
Wish 21:56
Okay.
JC 21:56
Because I'm dealing with two perspectives in one location, in two different timelines at the same time. These two protagonists are recounting, like remembering or showing in their perspective, how did the other family members die. So, it's a flashback within the flashback with different perspectives. And then I made the old man into, like, a former artist, an artist. And that's why his perspective, like how he remembers the death of his family members. It's like more of a creative imagination or dramatisation. And then the granddaughter, how she imagines how they die, which is going to be shown on screen more of a down to earth or rather, a realistic presentation. For example, this old man, he is emembering the death of his niece, who died at five, got kidnapped. And then he remembers it as like the kid got lost, got separated from the dad in a wet market/"palengke". And then he's trying to imagine the perspective of the kid. So the kid goes across the street, but the street is full of Thomas the Tank Engine balloons. And then she's crossing the street, and then she ends up in a parade. Everybody's smiling at her. But that's just the imagination. And then she just got dragged into the back of the van like that. So that's just like the reimagined dramatisation. I got that inspiration from the film Big Fish by who's the Prince of the Caribbean director again?
Wish 23:48
Oh, my gosh, let's Google it. Oh, my God. It's a restaurant. Wait, Big Fish...
JC 24:00
Big Fish Restaurant. It's Tim Burton.
Wish 24:07
Okay.
JC 24:08
Yeah, that's one of my biggest inspirations. Like Tim Burton, Big Fish. It was based on a book as well. The Big Fish is just like a father and his son. The son realises he's now an adult. He's going to get married, he's going to have a kid, he's married and he's going to have a kid. He realises that he doesn't really know his father all too well because how the father is telling his own stories is a very creative way. It's like a story book telling about his story. Like how the dad talked about how his son was born as him fishing for a big ass catfish, for a big catfish. And then he got the fish. The fish ate his ring and then he goes to the hospital to see his wife, the mother, and then just, uh, squeezed the son out and then got flung, uh, into the hallway to the hospital and he had to catch him. But in reality, him figuring out the reality of the story is that when he was born, the father was not really there. The father was working, was busy.
Wish 25:26
Yeah.
JC 25:26
So there was, like, a question at the end of the story. Do you really want to find out? Because reality is not interesting and you should just take it as how your father told it to you.
Wish 25:41
That's beautiful, isn't it? I need to watch that again, because when you're retelling the story, it reminded me when I watched it, but I was young when I watched it. It was in 2003. I was already, 23 then. But anyway, it's just like you still have a different perspective then. But when you're telling me this now and in parallel with how you make your screenplay very parallel, I really love that. And this is what I love about your mind. You're so creative as well. And I just heard from my other friend on my other episode that I am very creative. But, I'm so glad that you are too. And you're even better than me, because I also learn from you and it's just marvellous. So I really hope we can get this sorted out for you, because there's so much for you to offer the film industry. And so, moving forward, what's your aspirations when you graduate?
JC 26:50
I want to explore more on the side of editing, because it's another type of storytelling. You're playing around other people's stories, right? Playing around other people's stories, other people's visuals, other people's audio. And they're telling your own story using other people's medium. I think that's a very unique way of creating a story. Creating a story through other people's story and work
Wish
beautiful.
JC
It's not like piracy. They pay you to do that!
Wish 27:25
Yeah.
JC 27:28
There's like that Auteur Theory. Right where it's being argued. Who's the in film? Who is the creative? Who is, the man in charge? Is it the writer or the director? Some people don't want to argue. I forgot the director for Pulp Fiction.
Wish
Quentin Tarantino!
JC
Yes. He likes writing and directing, but nobody talks about the editor. The editor has his or her story to tell. Yes, using these two things even.
Wish 28:05
But you're looking at it differently than me. It's the other way around for me. You told me a very valuable lesson when, you know, I write way-out-there scripts, you know, stories. And they're mostly f***** up and really effed up in the head. All of my stories. And then during the execution, especially when it's a competition, it gets simplified or shortened or the interpretation of the director is different than what I see in my head. And that kind of hurt. But at the same time, you told me one thing. You told me something so good the other time, like a few months last year. Being a writer is the saddest part. What is it?
JC 29:03
I think it's along the lines of it's the saddest part of the creative process.
Wish 29:07
Yeah. You said something. I wrote it somewhere. I need to find that notebook and put it in my show notes. You told me something like that. And then I was just like, oh, that is so true. That's why I suppose, like, for the likes of Quentin Tarantino, he cares so much about his research and his vision that he doesn't want anyone to touch it. He'd rather write and direct it. And then you're telling me right now that there's also a story for the editor, because the editor is the one who's going to interpret all of these things. So now you're giving me another different layer of knowledge here. Because, again, as a scriptwriter, it's not just about how the director is interpreting my screenplay. It's also like how the editor is going to edit the director's vision of what I've written.
JC 30:04
Yeah. And learning from OJT (on-the-job training), everything is more independent than I thought. Even in shooting, the creative side is doing their own thing. And the director has his own team. They're talking to themselves. The sound, they only talk to each other at pre production and kind of rarely in the filming process, even they don't talk much because everything's so established already. If it's very organised, it's like that. They don't talk that much. Especially if the director is not there, which in the case of commercial video, the director is most likely not there.
Wish 30:47
Okay, so an organised production begins with a pre production that's well thought of and organised. So when you do your job, when you do the execution, you can work independently of each other. Is that what you say? Yeah. Preproduction and then production and then postprod it's really mostly depending on the editor, because you've got the files from the sound and the soundtrack and the production cut and all of these things. Right. Oh, my goodness. Okay.
JC 31:25
There's even something we call like reels filming. For example, like a 30 minutes short film up to like a feature film full. We have these things called reels, which is like just a divided parts of the film. For example, reel one is the first 15 minutes. It's divided into parts just for the director to say pictlock. If the director says pictlock, uh, that's it. The editor is not allowed to change it in any way, shape or form anymore. So that the music can come in. More of the sound effects come in. Right. And everything else, and that's what you show to the producers, the client or the investor.
Wish 32:12
Pictlock is in production or post-production?
JC 32:15
Post-production. Pictlock, literally is just sort for a picture lock.
Wish 32:21
So pretty much. Okay, this entire 15 minutes scene, if I say pictlock, nobody can touch it. Yeah, but that's only on the visual. Or that involves the sounds and everything else. Or it's just a picture?
JC 32:36
Just the editing part. It's just the video. And then just like the dialogue. Because that's when the online edit comes in. Because we have two types of editing. The offline and the online. The offline is the one is the dude that assembles everything.
Wish 32:57
Okay.
JC 32:57
Just like Legos. So that's like the whole sequences, uh, and then the online editing is like visual effects, text, other effects. Like everything else. Like 3D, even.
Wish 33:10
Yeah.
JC 33:11
So when you pictlock, an offline edit, if it's not pictlocked yet, the online cannot do anything. The music cannot do anything. The score. Because if you change the editing, everybody has to start the music, especially the music. Especially if it's like some classical sound as well. But the thing is the pictlock rule can be broken. The reason the person mostly responsible for that is usually the client and the producers who just decided late. Never mind. Let's do it again. Which was everybody's fine.
Wish 33:50
And that happens mostly in the creative world. There's always this one difficult person that will make your life hell. And you have to do everything all over again. Wow. There's so much for you and your future. Uh, which is close. So there's a setback, but I think that's another part of adulting Jace(JC) that there are setbacks. And, um, the biggest lesson there is how you're going to pick yourself up or how you're going to solve the problem. Uh, so that's part of it. It's really like getting back up and find some solutions. One of the lessons that I've learned is from my first boss, Kim, if, um, you can remember. So there's no way but up. So that's always like, pick yourself up when there's a setback and it's fine to feel like, oh, I don't want to eat, I don't want to sleep. So annoying. Or I just wanted to sleep it off. And that's great because you're only human, but at some point, get back up and find something. So maybe there's still a way to negotiate or something. But I leave it up to you because I need to remember that you're an adult now and I have to take a step back. Sometimes. Not all the time. Just sometimes.
JC 35:12
But I learned a really valuable lesson here, which is because our presentation for the colloqium and even the thesis defence is going to be recorded. It should be prerecorded maximum ten minutes. I'm going to make it so clear and bite size that it's impossible to not understand.
Wish 35:35
Yeah, that's great that you pick up something really, really good to improve on. That's good observation. So coming from all of this as well, like you're studying, can you explain how do you feel that you haven't been in a physical University studying these past two years?
JC 35:56
Actually, I'm one of the people who actually had an easier time when it's online because I'm a very hermit type of person.
Wish 36:06
Yeah, we are hermit, you and I.
JC 36:09
So I benefited from it, and I'm just indifferent. It just cuts down the possibility of getting affected by crime, commute accidents. Just cutting down the commute. That's what I'm thankful for. But I do agree that there's some good things that come with physical learning in a classroom. But my track is either writing or editing. Writing and editing. So it's a very homebound occupation.
Wish 36:44
That's right.
JC 36:45
So it's not that different from what I'm going to do in the future.
Wish 36:49
That's right. Can you give me a sample of your VO (voice-over)? Can you give us a demo?
JC 36:53
Give me a character.
Wish 36:55
You have different characters. I don't know.
JC 36:58
It's hard without a script.
Wish 37:01
Find something random on your computer right now.
JC 37:05
Um, how about that? Can't wait for that. Suspect behind the door. Something like that.
Wish 37:11
Wow. Is that you?
JC 37:13
No, that was the demons behind me.
Wish 37:17
Wow. Uh, that's freaking good. Can you do another one now? I'm so entertained.
JC 37:23
Wait, let me think.
Wish 37:25
Read something random as well. So it's going to be funny.
JC 37:29
How about this? I'm not finding a good sentence here. I'm looking at Discord. Uh, I'm reading a random sentence. That's not personal.
Wish 37:37
No, read something personal.
JC 37:41
No, it's very political right now because of the upcoming elections.
Wish
Election not political. We're not getting it. Which Discord channel are you on?
JC 37:54
Very personal, like with my friends.
Wish 37:57
Um, find something. Say someone's secret on your Discord. In a weird voice
Wish
A weird voice. "Hello, my name is JC."
Wish 38:14
I love! So good man.
JC 38:17
"Hello. Let me stop Discord". Yeah, because the heat of the Philippines news and so people are, like, judging stuff right now.
Wish 38:31
Wow.
JC 38:32
In the state of the Philippines right now. I'm going to send you some images later. A lot of controversial stuff going on.
Wish 38:38
Please. That will be awesome.
JC 38:40
Off the record.
Wish 38:41
Yeah, off the record stuff. Jace, thank you so much for hanging out with me. It's so good to catch up with you While everybody's listening to us, to our normal conversation.
JC 38:53
Yeah.
Wish 38:53
So in closing, what's the word that you can impart to our listeners? Word or a phrase and you can expand on it when you fail.
JC 39:05
When you are demotivated, sometimes rage is the best motivator, and that's what I did. Like this thesis colloquium. Uh, I was filled with rage, and it really motivated me to write for an hour straight.
Wish 39:31
Like a demon.
JC 39:36
Sometimes your demons can motivate you if use it properly.
Wish 39:43
I like that. I'm like that when I'm angry, when I'm not in the mood, I write my poetry, and it's the loveliest poetry I could ever write, but nobody would ever know that I'm angry while I'm writing them.
JC 39:59
Oh, yeah! How about this? I can face it like this. You can use your demons for good, right?
Wish 40:09
I like this. This is your generation. I love this with the way you're thinking. Sometimes when I meet people your age, you have this radical thinking of negative to positive. I feel that the kids will be all right. I'm not worried about the future. You are an anti TikToker. You can affect people in a different way. Like you have this and you have that. It's not you have this, I cancel you with that.
JC 40:47
Yeah.
Wish 40:49
You know what I'm saying?
JC 40:50
Yeah.
Wish 41:02
From this episode, One of the most important words about life is ENLIGHTENMENT. It is defined as the state of having knowledge or understanding. Nikola Tesla, an inventor, quoted it is paradoxical yet true to say that the more we know, the more ignorant we become in the absolute sense. For it is only through enlightenment that we become conscious of our limitations. Enlightenment is the same as the words understanding, erudition wisdom, refinement development. Sophistication further understanding yourself and everybody and everything around you gives you an open heart. That means that you're going to see things a little bit clearer and more differently Than anything that holds you back, and then anything that you perceive, it will open up a different world Where you can be more accepting of different ideas and different facets of life.
Wish
I hope you love eavesdropping. You should start thinking about your synonyms. What are they? Thank you for listening to Human Thesaurus podcast. Please rate and subscribe and follow me on Twitter or Instagram. Your support means a great deal for me to continue this podcast. Join me again next week for another episode. I'm your host Wish Ronquillo Peacocke. Have a fantastic day and thanks for listening.
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